Friday, January 15, 2016

Why does Massett need a forest of Wind Turbines when Grouse has one, for 400 Homes?

400 homes in Vancouver will house 1,600 residents, or more.   Massett has 884 residents living in 104 homes, or less.

Grouse Mountain Resort has its Eye and relatively no wind but still claims that the Eye 'can' generate enough for 400 homes (4,000 Square Feet each).  To be truthful, and for the benefit of planners at Massett which has an almost unlimited supply of wind, GMR should tell the truth, and share, exactly how many 'homes', not theoretically, are being provided with their electricity.

Based on five years of wind generated electricity, alone, from the Eye, has GMR reduced their dependency on their consumption from BC Hydro by 25%?

Masset-tonians just might be over sold by unscrupulous contractors and government officials of just how many wind turbines are needed for their population. They can't sell excess to BC Hydro grid because they're not on the Smart Grid.   All current electrical power needs are generated by BC Hydro Diesels as part of the Remote Community Electrification Program.

BC Hydro Non Integrated Area, BC Hydro Remote Community electrification program 

Alternative options for supplying electrical power to Bamfield and Bella Bella, B.C. / for and by B.C. Hydro

 Capacity Funding Application - Province of British Columbia

 Old massett village, diesel generator company

BC Hydro: Canadian Off Grid Utilities Association:
The Non-Integrated Areas (NIA) department within BC Hydro operates, maintains and manages all aspects of energy supply (generation, distribution & customer service) in 18 communities in 10 remote BC locations that are not currently connected to the BC Hydro integrated electrical system. It also provides new service to remote communities through the Remote Community Electrification (RCE) program. The electricity supply to each non-integrated community serviced by BC Hydro is produced by a generating station in or near the community. Approximately 5,100 residential and 1,200 commercial customers are served either by BC Hydro’s own generating stations or independent power producers and a further 1,000 residents in many new remote communities will be added over the next 8 years.  ........In the locations which have a standby diesel station, BC Hydro purchases required energy from an Independent Power Producer (IPP).
Residents who can least afford (Rocky Mountaineer owner) electricity, Savary Islanders, have an application in for their RCE   Approximately 5% of Savary Island property owners live on the island year round

Bread Crumb Trail
   Clean Energy Fund
      Renewable Programs



Population (2011)
 • Total 884
 • Density 45/km2 (120/sq mi)

BCUC decisions on BC Hydro servicing Remote Villages    including Savary Island

Table of Contents

4.6          Project Costs

 Haida Gwaii
July 14, 2014:

BC Hydro undertook a Request for Expressions of Interest (RFEOI) in fall 2012. In response to the RFEOI, BC Hydro received 26 submissions. After reviewing the submissions and considering different process options, BC Hydro has decided not to proceed with a commercial process at this time and to formally conclude the RFEOI process.

BC Hydro typically uses an RFEOI process in cases where the number and types of potentially viable projects isn't known. It's used for information gathering only.

The RFEOI itself doesn't result in a contract such as an electricity purchase agreement (EPA) with BC Hydro, nor does the RFEOI include a commitment by BC Hydro to any further commercial process which is required before an EPA may be signed.

If the RFEOI reveals viable projects, BC Hydro may decide to proceed to a commercial process which could involve any of the following potential options:
  • a competitive process with evaluation criteria (e.g. Request for Proposals);
  • bilateral discussions with one party; or
  • bilateral discussions with multiple parties.
On November 2, 2012, BC Hydro held a webinar on the Haida Gwaii RFEOI to review its requirements and answer questions. A copy of the presentation is available.  (Workshops and Presentations, Webinairs)
Please note that submissions are no longer accepted. The RFEOI closed on November 23, 2012.
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Over the next 10 years, BC Hydro will pursue its RCE program to expand its service to remote communities that meet specific criteria and that are seeking service from BC Hydro.  Service to these communities will be provided under BC Hydro’s Zone 2 tariff.  (The Zone 2 tariff is used to service BC Hydro’s existing Non-Integrated Areas.)  Costs will be recovered from currently-responsible agencies – such as the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs – and BC Hydro ratepayers.

Policy Action 28.  Ensure BC Hydro considers alternative electricity sources and energy efficiency measures in its energy planning for remote communities.

Remote communities and Non-Integrated Areas tend to rely on diesel generation for electricity supply with high operating costs. Given the environmental and economic issues associated with this type of generation, the business and social case for pursuing clean electricity and energy efficiency solutions in remote communities is much stronger than in other areas of the Province. These solutions should not be overlooked when considering service options for remote communities. BC Hydro will work with the Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources (MEMPR) to develop community energy plans (CEP) prior to extending service to remote communities under its RCE program.  In addition, BC Hydro will develop community energy plans when it is considering renewal or replacement of diesel generators in Non-Integrated Areas, or in other circumstances where unique opportunities are evident.  CEPs will consider all cost-effective solutions to meet the electricity needs of the remote community, including energy efficiency, alternative energy solutions and integration with the main grid.  In addition, the CEPs will seek to integrate with plans for skills training and local economic development opportunities.


BC Hydro 1962 Annual Report page 60

D is for Diesel

Alert Bay    D
Bella Coola  D
Blue River   D
Burns Lake   D
Chetwynd Gas/Diesel
Dawson Creek Gas/Diesel
Fort Nelson Gas/Diesel
Georgia ??? Gas/Turbine
Hazelton  D
Houston D
Kamloops Gas/Diesel
McBride Gas/Diesel
Port Hardy D
Prince George Gas/Diesel
Queen Charlotte D
Quesnel  Gas/Diesel
Smithers D
Terrace D
Tofino  D
Valemont D
Vanderhoof  D
Wiliam Lake Gas/Diesel

BC Hydro Reports




G. Barry Stewart said...

I don't get into Vancouver very often — but when I do, I like to look up at Grouse and see the wind turbine. I don't recall ever seeing it actually moving.

North Van's Grumps said...

IF GMR had told the District of North Vancouver City Hall that the only way they could give local municipal governments, and their planning restrictions on heights of structures, the finger, the permit would have been denied. Gordon Campbell and Bill Bennett were behind the scheme 100% because it was GREEN, even though it is far, far from being anywhere near to generating 25% of their electrical needs.

e.a.f. said...

well, this being B.C. I'd conclude the reason Massett is getting all those wind turbines is some one is making a lot of money out of it and it won't be the First Nations.

North Van's Grumps said...

Bruce ????

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North Van's Grumps said...

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Anonymous said...

North Van's Grumps said...

Time to ask your MLA about province's power needs and pocketbook

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