Showing posts with label Snowmobiles. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Snowmobiles. Show all posts

Thursday, March 8, 2012

BC Mary's blog lives on, and in good hands.

At my post of 1820 to 2006 "Historical News Search" via Open Information.  1984, the first death of a Snowmobiler.   Kootcoot left a comment, and when I clicked on his name, I found that it linked to his profile where he has these Blogs listed:

My blogs



That's right, BC Mary's   "The Legislature Raids" is being looked after by Kootcoot.

Under the heading of "Contributors" is this:


 Contributors

Thank you Kootcoot!

Wednesday, March 7, 2012

1820 to 2006 "Historical News Search" via Open Information. 1984, the first death of a Snowmobiler.

This morning's Vancouver Sun report of an avalanche killing a snowmobiler at Whistler triggered putting a query to Open Information.  "other supplies" has opened up many doors to what the BC Government has stashed away in no particular order, or in a neat chronological order, latest to oldest.

Using      snowmobiler      creates 341 weekly incident reports........ What I was looking for was something more of a historical nature, so I used "other supplies" and roadrunner.    RoadRunner is a provincial government Transportation magazine, and I thought it might have some substance.

Search Criteria in Open Information:     "other supplies" roadrunner    Four hits, second one down is this:

HISTORICAL NEWS SEARCH
Page 1. Flooding and Landslide Events Northern British Columbia 1820-2006 ...
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wsd/public_safety/flood/pdfs_word/floods_landslides_north.pdf

 Flooding and Landslide Events Northern British Columbia 1820-2006
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D. Septer
There's just one hit when a search is done for "other supplies", this:

July 15-18, 1974
Event type: Spring runoff flooding.
Precipitation: Dease Lake (34.5 mm/1 day), July 16, 1974.
Source: The Vancouver Sun, July 19, 23 and 24, 1974; Coates 1992 (pp. 252-56).
In the middle of July, torrential rain and late melting snow caused floods and washouts in northwest and northern British Columbia. There had been exceptionally heavy snowfalls the previous winter. The following summer was cool, and mountain snowmelt slow. Warm weather arrived in early July, to be followed by exceptionally heavy rainfall starting on July 15.
The Alaska Highway experienced some of the worst flooding in its history. Within a matter of hours, dozens of miles of the highway had been rendered impassable. The storm continued, interrupting telecommunications and stranding hundreds of travellers. Of the people stranded in the washed-out sections, 50 were at Summit Lake, 50 at Toad River Lodge, others at isolated sites, and the largest group, 175 trapped at Muncho Lake. The Provincial Emergency Planning Group, assisted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, flew food and other supplies (as well as a social worker and a public health nurse to the group at Muncho Lake) to the stranded travellers.
The word Roadrunner doesn't exist in the document at all

Christy Clark's Open Information database is Flawed..... who was hired to create the information?

If you're still reading here, there's one more step in the "looking", the researching, the data mining, and its this.  If you copy a part of the title of the manuscript.....Flooding and Landslide Events Northern British Columbia into Google..... you get 71,500 hits.... but its the first one that makes you  say YES!


Hydrometeorological thresholds for landslide initiation and forest ...

www.bgcengineering.com/files/.../KH_Hydro_Meteo_Thresholds_0....
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by MJKHO Lange - 2006 - Cited by 15 - Related articles
recorded in Northern British Columbia, including approximately. 50 deaths on July 6, 1881 ... discharge, estimated flood volume, and event intensity were used ...

A picture is truly worth a thousand words:


And this report only focuses on what you see in the photo above, it doesn't cover the rest on the trek east to Alberta's oil sands!

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The following are just the one liners but the "Historical News Search" includes the full stories as well, and also the newspapers that wrote them
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Appendix 3 - Reported fatalities caused by slope failures and snow avalanches in northern British Columbia.

Ca. 1852 A glacial outburst flood “destroyed several Indian villages and killed countless people,” including a settlement at the confluence of the Alsek and Tatshenshini rivers.
July 6, 1891 Debris avalanches near Port Edward killed 41 people at the Inverness cannery and nine at the North Pacific cannery.
Winter 1915-1916 A snow avalanche on the southeastern shoulder of Mount Cronin killed a man carrying mail for the Cronin mine.
December 28, 1917 A snowslide killed two mining employees on their way up to Rocher de Boule mountain.
October 1, 1922 A debris avalanche at Eicho Harbor near Ocean Falls killed five people and buried some houses.
May 4, 1931 The locomotive and three fish cars derailed when an eastbound train No. 6 hit a rockslide east of Amsbury. One trespasser riding on a fish car was killed.
Ca. February 20, 1932 Snowslides buried three men at the Jumbo mine near Wrangell, Alaska, killing at least one of them.
March 25, 1939 Ice jams caused the Murray River to suddenly overflow its banks west of Dawson Creek, taking a total of nine lives.
October 19, 1940 A passenger train plunged off the flood-weakened bridge across Lorne Creek. The engineer, fireman, and two passengers were drowned. According to another source, five lives were lost.
February 11, 1943 A series of three snow avalanches at MacLean Point west of Terrace killed three men and injured 12 others in the camp of the Tomlinson Construction Company.
January 15, 1947 A CNR foreman was killed when his speeder struck a rock on the track near Pacific.
October 27, 1953 A rockslide near Dorreen killed one miner at a placer mine at Lorne Creek.
May 15, 1954 A fireman was killed west of Prince George after a CNR passenger train dropped into a deep washed-out culvert caused by the breaching of a beaver dam.
October 18, 1954 A debris slide killed two construction workers at Mile 28 on the rail line between Terrace-Kitimat.
October 6, 1955 A PGE speeder hit a rock and jumped the tracks at Stone Creek south of Prince George, killing two members of a bridge and buildings crew and injuring two others.
November 21, 1957 A debris avalanche on Mount Oldfield near Prince Rupert killed seven people and destroyed three houses.
March 21, 1959 An eastbound freight train hit a slide west of Smithers and derailed, killing the engineer.
April 7, 1959 A snow avalanche at the Torbrit Silver Mine near Alice Arm killed one miner.
December 4, 1959 A rock and snowslide killed one employee and injured another on the Stewart/Cassiar Road project north of Stewart.
September 7, 1960 A mud and debris slide down a steep ravine 18 mi. (28.8 km) west of McBride killed three highway construction workers. Another man was injured while a fifth man escaped.
November 18, 1962 A snow avalanche on Hudson Bay’s Glacier Gulch near Smithers killed one mine employee.
July 21, 1963 A section of roadway north of Fort Nelson and just inside the Yukon Territory, gave way and buried a truck with two men, killing one and injuring the other one.
January 13, 1965 A snow avalanche on Mt. Caro Marion near Ocean Falls wiped out two duplex homes, killing seven and injuring five other people.
February 18, 1965 A snow avalanche on the Leduc Glacier near Stewart killed 26 and injured 20 workmen in the Granduc Mining Co. camp.
February 10, 1966 Heavy snowload on the roof of a welding shop in Kitimat collapsed, killing one man.
November 24, 1968 A massive slide of “overburden” of a mining operation west of Natal on Highway 3 killed two motorists and their small dog.
March 14, 1973 A snow avalanche on Nine Mile Mountain near Hazelton killed one snowmobile operator.
January 22, 1974 A snow avalanche wiped out a service station and motel/restaurant complex on Highway 16 west of Terrace. Seven people were killed.

 On January 22, a “dry” avalanche came down 28 mi. (45 km) west of Terrace. It wiped out a service station and motel-restaurant complex North Route along Highway 16. The service station had been built in 1964. It was located in the run-out zone of large avalanches that would probably occur once in about 15 years (Stethem and Schaerer 1979). According to a National Research Council report, tree growth patterns and broken wood in the area demonstrated that avalanches had reached the highway through two narrow gaps before the cafĂ© was built. The North Route buildings stood directly in the path that dry, rapidly moving avalanches would be expected to take. “Unfortunately, the hazard was not recognised when the service center was built,” the report states. “And later, when avalanches did come close, the warning went unheeded.” (Terrace Standard, January 21, 2004). Several vehicles were also buried. Seven people were killed. *2)
The snow mass was estimated at 400 ft. (120 m) long, 100 ft. (30 m) wide, and 30 ft. (9 m) deep. The avalanche traveled 500-600 ft. (150-180 m) down and 1,000-1,500 ft. (300-450 m) across. D.D. Godfrey, Highways Department regional engineer for Burnaby, estimated the speed at which it traveled to be over 100 mph (160 km/h). The estimated speed of the avalanche when it hit the buildings was 108 km/h (Stethem and Schaerer 1979).
The avalanche snow ranged from 1-8 m in depth and was strewn with housing debris and trees up to 0.5 m in diameter. The average depth was 1 m, but the snow in the area surrounding the buildings was up to 8 m deep. The avalanche ran out on the ice of the Skeena River, with the tip of the deposit 250 m past the service centre. On several trees between the railroad and the river, snow was plastered on the north side of the tree trunks up to 30 ft. (9 m) above the tracks. Snowfalls at the accident site are usually greater than those at the Terrace airport. At the North Route site, the snowfall was probably greater by one third (Stethem and Schaerer 1979).
Earlier that morning, a Canada Post mail truck driver and only survivor, heard “a bunch of noise rattling outside.” He was told not to worry as “it’s way up in the hills.” Just after 8 a.m., the slide hit. “I heard it – just like a cannon shot,” he said. It pushed him through the wall of the coffee shop and 50 ft. (15 m) beyond.
During the rescue operations, a smaller slide occurred about a mile (1.6 km) from the disaster site. At 2:45 p.m., almost seven hours later the first body was found under 3.6 m of snow. Zobel was the second victim found, and he would be the only survivor. It was nearly 20 hours after the slide hit that the last bodies were found. The only other survivor was a husky. The dog was under a building and crawled out a couple of days later.
 The coroner’s inquiry found that logging carried out by the service station owner was a contributing factor to the slide. He had logged off an area above his property on Highway 16. Warmer temperatures loosened the heavy snowpack on the mountain above the highway triggering a fast moving powder snowslide. (The Vancouver Sun, March 21, 1974).




February 17, 1974 an avalanche on Mica Mountain west of Valemount killed one man and seriously injured two others.
October 30, 1978 A mudslide coming down in the BC Rail yard north of Prince George killed two employees. One man was buried alive and the second died of a heart attack while attempting to rescue the other.
November 2, 1978 Part of a CNR work train plunged into the Skeena River, killing an engine man and a conductor.
July 1980 A debris avalanche in the Beaver Valley near Terrace killed an equipment operator. The vibration of a caterpillar tractor set off the accident.
September 28, 1981 A mudslide killed a 25-year old man working on the new BC Rail line near the Tumbler Ridge coal site.
January 12, 1982 A snow avalanche at slidepath Rockface west of Terrace killed a 53-year old CNR section man and injured three other CNR employees.
February 13, 1984 An avalanche in the Red Fern Lake area south of Fort Nelson swept down a five-man snowmobiler party, killing an 18-year old Fort St. John man and a 20-year old man from Taylor.
February 22, 1985 An avalanche on Onion Mountain near Smithers killed a 29-year old man snowmobiling in the darkness.
March 29, 1986 An avalanche on the Cariboo Mountain trail south of Valemount killed four Alberta snowmobilers.
March 23, 1987 An avalanche near Blue River in the Cariboo Range killed seven heli-skiers. Another five skiers, who were trailing behind the group, escaped.
January 28, 1989 A snow avalanche near Telegraph Creek wiped out two houses, killing an 80-year old woman.

March 25, 1989 A piece of falling ice on Highway 16 at Carwash Rock west of Terrace killed the driver of a pick-up truck.
November, 1989 A logging truck driver was killed when his truck left Highway 37A after hitting a rock fall at the entrance to Little Canyon near Stewart.
June 11, 1990 A van carrying eight tree planters plunged off a partly washed out bridge over George Creek, killing four occupants.
November 27, 1991 An avalanche coming down Twin Falls near Smithers killed one ice-climber and injured four others.
January 3, 1992 A snow avalanche on Thornhill Mountain near Terrace buried and killed two local snowmobilers.
November 19, 1993 A small debris flow on the eastern shore of Alan Reach south of Kitimat buried and killed one logging employee.
May 22, 1994 A small snow avalanche killed one member of a ski-mountaineering group near Europa Lake south of Kitimat. The victim was swept over a 360-metre cliff.
September 28, 1994 A heavy equipment operator was killed when a section of road under construction at Kiseadin Creek near Greenville gave way.
May 17, 1996 An avalanche down the slope of Cerberus Mountain about 70 km from Bella Coola killed four skiers.
April 16, 1997 In West Quesnel, shifting soil snapped a gas line and caused an explosion that killed five people and injured 20 others.
January 7, 1999 An avalanche near Meziadin killed two Terrace-based Ministry of Transportation and Highways avalanche technicians.
December 28, 2002 Two Alberta snowmobilers got caught in an avalanche south of Valemount. One of the victims was killed.

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If I find later details, they'll be posted here, and/or links to them.

Friday, January 2, 2009

Cathedral Lake Lodge
















Near Keremeos, which is in the valley bottom on the Similkameen River.

The "camp" and Cathedral Lodge is high, high, high up.

You may have heard about Cathedral, obviously you have, why else would you be going.  Its not like the Rockies (Canadian) where 86% of the visitors barely get out of their vehicles to go for a hike.  They just want to drive through the park, and see its wide valleys to get the views.  14%, make the extra effort, ....... planned effort, and head out for places like Sentinel Pass and leave Morraine Lake or Lake Louise far below.

Ah yes, Sentinel Pass, we did that from the Morraine Lake side and then having made the long climb up, decided NOT to return by the same route.   We went down the opposite side, which was much longer, much more enjoyable (fewer people).  All that was needed later was to catch a ride back up to Morraine Lake where we had left our car.

Cathedral is different, thankfully, because its not a Must see Lake Louise tourist destination, yet.

From Keremeos and the Similkameen Valley, Cathedral's hiking area is not visible at all, and once you're up there, all of the nearby valleys look the same.    Closest thing to Cathedral, not in location, but in sheer enjoyment, is Lake O'Hara in Yoho National Park, right on the western side of the Continental Divide.   O'Hara offers the same two options of getting into the hiking area, by School Bus or hiking, and like Cathedral, stay off of the Road, walk on the hiking trail (which is more difficult and delays, delays, delays....).  My advice, don't waste your time by hiking.  You're going to need every ounce of stamina, and strength, to enjoy the day(s) ahead of you, with of course, relaxing at night as well.


Cathedral:

Everyone starts from the same location, the parking lot.   We took the Private four-wheel-drive method, rough ride, not paved, its four wheel territory.  Keep your hands and arms inside the vehicle, the trees are that close to the "road".   And you will get to know your neighbour on the seats!

Still thinking of hiking?   Stay on the trail, don't even think about using the "road".............. and if one or two of your group IS taking the trucks, give them the heavier packs!

Accommodations and Brochures

The Lodge and the Cabins;   electricity (generated on site), beds, wood stoves if needed, FOOD cooked by someone else, sandwiches too for the day hike.  Canoe on THE Lake ..... which is NOT called "Cathedral", its higher up.  Quiniscoe Lake is where the "accommodation" areas are.    The Lodge and the Cabins, along with the Public tenting area, are on Quiniscoe Lake.... and once there, don't forget to ask where the helicopter landing areas are.... NO!!!!  they're not to be used as a short cut In and Out (unless.......)

Don't even think you can buy a flight in or out.   The helicopters are only brought in in an emergency, like forest fire or some other disaster.    There is a "However Clause".

With the exception of winter helicopter and/or snowmobile access to the Resort, and the summer transport service, there will be no mechanized support allowed for commercial recreation use of the Park.  (Page 51)

In 2008, there was a working hot tub, in the Lodge......   its 2012, and hot tub is working just fine and you can thank the Pine Beetle for that luxury.  NB: 2014: no mention of the hot tub, but here are the going Rates....          Contact        &   Mail Too


The Map   at the top of this POST.

Yellow solid line is the Canada - USA border

Yellow PINS are on Hiking trails, it's difficult to say where it really becomes steeper, therefore I didn't mark it on my GPS, but from before #59, its definitely steeper, like in a forty-five degree angle with left and right sides of the spine dropping off steeper than forty-five degrees.  Plenty of rocks to stop you from tumbling.    Breathe......breathe..... the hike is well worth the effort, and if the weather holds, the view is Fantastic, it was for us in September of 2008.

Cathedral Lake Lodge is within Cathedral Park Provincial Park

Here are the Trails and the then "current" conditions for September 18, 2008



















Not all trails go straight up, some go DOWN first then STRAIGHT up...... just remember that when planning your return hike.   Typically we saw more people at the Lodge at Supper time than we saw on the trail, which might sound right, but there's a lot of campers at the Lake too.  30 campsites

Sections of the Quiniscoe Lake Campground will be closed for re-construction in 2012, please check back to this website for updated closure information. Lake of the Woods campground will be used as the alternate location for camping when campsites at Quiniscoe Lake are not available.  SOURCE

Once 2012 is over and done with, and left time to Vote in the Provincial Election:

Quiniscoe Lake has 30 sites designated by number posts. The sites are spread out along the southern shore of the lake amongst Engelmann spruce, Lyall's larch and Sub-alpine fir. Boulders and rock outcroppings are strewn about the area, evidence of the area's glacial history. The sites feature framed earth tent pads to minimize the impacts of camping by keeping people in designated areas. The sites are grouped together in clusters of three or four in order to share the 12 picnic tables and 13 fire rings. There are four pit toilets in the campground, one is near the lodge access road, a second is behind the ranger cabin between sites 4 and 7 and the other two are further along the lake beside the trail to sites 21-25. A firewood corral is located near the lodge access road approximately 100m from the campsites. Campers are reminded to conserve firewood. There are four wire mesh food caches on the ground to protect supplies from rodents and birds. They are not bear proof.  SOURCE

The information above, and a map of the area, I photographed to have IN my camera, for use later on.  And yes I have several Back up Batteries as well.
 
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"They", those at the Lodge, said that you wouldn't even have to stand on your tiptoes to see Mount Baker from Scout Mountain, which was true, however, I found that once home, with the use of Google Earth,  I did manage to plant a pole on top of the American focal point.