Friday, August 30, 2013

Fair Incendiary Comment? Don't Mix three items: 1) Conservative/BC Liberals Jobs; 2) $8 Billion Shipbuilding; 3) Sulphur/Coal/Chlorine/Wood Chips

UPDATE July 11, 2014 at bottom:

Transportation Act Provincial Public Undertakings Regulation on Bridges, Tunnels, Highways

 Explosives, flammables and corrosives

UPDATE September 20, 2013,  at bottom:  WOOD CHIPS
UPDATE September 22, 2013, right here:
      Table of Initial Isolation and Protective Action Distances
                First Isolate in all directions   
                Then Protect Persons Downwind During Large Spills Day/Night
Google Search Criteria for more info

UPDATE September 25, 2013 Wikimapia of CNR Thornton Tunnel


Photo Source 2010

In 2010, West Vancouver Fire Department utilized 16 of 89 of their Firefighters from three Fire Halls to put out a Sulphur fire.  Evacuations alerts to nearby businesses and homes were performed with the use of PAs (Public Address loud hailers).  They even considered implementing a Canada Amber Alert.   The Amber alert would be displayed on overhead signs for the benefit of Motorists.

Where to go, where would they go, to escape.

Currently, Open hopper sulphur cars are stored between Fell to MacKay and east of the Lions Gate Bridge, North Van
Shipyard Left - Kinder Morgan Vancouver Wharves ahead  SULX 1389
"The sulphur in there was smouldering and causing a moderate amount of smoke.  It wasn't free flaming.  We went in and put it out.  The Squamish Nation and Norgate were put on evacuation warning.  Police went througn with their PA systems and asked residents to shelter in place." Assistant Fire Chief Martin Ernst of  West Vancouver Fire and Rescue played many roles today: media relations manager, firefighter, and coordinator, as sixteen fire fighters worked to extinguish smouldering sulphur in an open box car on the Capilano Reserve.

"We were mobilizing the Can Alert system because the smoke was starting to drift and increase."..... and we also brought in NSEMO.


About 500 homes are on the reserve. As the West Vancouver Fire Department got the situation in hand, Mason said,  the phone campaign to alert residents stopped.

The area of concern covered an 800 meter radius around the spill. Indian and Northern Affairs and the Provincial Emergency Program were kept up to date on the fire. There were no  transportation impacts.


"But what if it had been chlorine?" Shaw asked. (Chris Shaw, a neuroscientist and professor at UBC)

"Had it been a rail accident with chlorine, they'd be evacuating everyone within a couple of kilometers.  Potentially thousands of people.  Let's be happy that's not what happened today.  But it calls into question the transport of dangerous materials through residential areas." - VancouverObserver - Aug 10th, 2010

It's that last sentence, three years ago, that speaks volumes, prophetically:

 "But it calls into question the transport of dangerous materials through residential areas."
Lac-Megantic disaster
Dilbit EpicCentre

Red Lined 800 Meter Radius

Port of Vancouver

 Has BC Disaster Response personnel got it covered, because right now, the highways are out of bound as evacuation routes.  Those highways are the means by which First Responders have jurisdiction.  

North Vancouver Evacuation Radius coloured by stockpiled resource.

Green Ship - Chlorine manufacturer Canexus
Green Line - Chlorine Two Kilometre evacuation Radius

Blue Ship   -  $8 Billion Shipbuilding location

Yellow Bar -  Sulphur open hopper cars
Red Line    -  Sulphur 800 Metre evacuation Radius

Black Ship  -  Coal

Maroon Vent A- 49°16'46.42"N 123° 1'6.12"W
                          CNR Thornton Tunnel Vents into residential area
Thornton Tunnel adits:
South: from Second Narrows Rail Bridge.
North: from one and half blocks West of Willingdon, one and half block south of Lougheed Highway


Or another way of looking, with an interactive map
Wikimapia Thornton Tunnel, North Leg, highlighted with hovering mouse

North Vancouver's Neptune Terminal keep their piled-high-Coal-at-bay by pressure washing the road between CNR rail lines .... but we own the Right-of-Way (BC Rail Deal) and the Administration building's parking lot.  They also have high towers watering the coal, where one is visible in this image from Google Earth.    49°18'24.48"N 123° 3'6.00"W

As to the $8 billion, 30 year possible contract of building Coast Guard and Naval vessels on the North Shore of Burrard Inlet, has anyone, government officials at the Federal and Provincial levels done their homework on Sulphur being a stone's throw away from the $200 million upgrade to the Washington Group's SeaSpan Vancouver Shipyard?

Has Municipal governments been involved?

Has Transport Canada's Rail Investigators been involved?  Or, are they still busy working on the:

Lac-Megantic disaster

Wayback Machine to FOLC Additional Info

Additional information: Sulphur handling related incidents/evacuations


Conveyor Belt from Three piles of Wood Chips to waiting ship.
  $8 billion worth of shipbuilding to the Right

Piles of Sulphur to the left, Wood Chips (FIRE) side by side to $8 billion investment in Vancouver Shipyards at the foot of Pemberton.

There's a Win/Win situation here.  Ask Wood Chips company Fibreco, directly west of Vancouver Shipyards, to shift their Vancouver Port business to Robert's Bank and Fibreco would benefit, Canada too.   Shorter distance for Overseas Bulk Carriers to a Fibreco Dock, less time for Truckers hauling chips from the Interior of British Columbia thereby avoiding the congestion on Metro Vancouver Highways, and the overloaded traffic on the Second Narrow Bridge.

The Canadian Government owns the Japanese built Panamax Floating Dry Dock, not Burrard Dry Dock, not Versatile Pacific, and not Seaspan. Write your MP asking that Seaspan's Vancouver Dry Dock needs to shift on over to the foot of Pemberton, West side (Currently Fibreco).  The floating Panamax Dry Dock Repair business would then be side by side to Vancouver Shipyard's $8 Billion New ship building Contract, for 30 Years.   There's a lot of benefits for Seaspan, their workforce wouldn't be split in Two, therefore greater control, with less management involvement.  One warehouse too.

This photo isn't quite clear as to the size of the Vancouver Dry Dock but it's one third of the original facility.   One third!

Seaspan Vancouver Dry Dock Photo

Preferably, for the Residents and Visitors to the North Shore, more open space to the waterfront would be better than having a fully operational shipyard right next to Condos.  The Black highlighted upside down "U" is Vancouver Dry Dock property.  The area to the Right, the white topped building, is a temporary structure that was built solely to house the Three Fast Cat Ferries under the flag of Catamaran Ferries International.

City of North Vancouver  Waterfront Project(Edited)

Transportation Act Provincial Public Undertakings Regulation

 Explosives, flammables and corrosives
6 (1)  In this section, "contaminated vehicle" means a vehicle that
(a) is transporting any of the following:
(i)  gasoline, distillate or kerosene in tanks, drums, barrels or cans;
(ii)  oxygen, acetylene or butane;
(iii)  fuel oil, road oil, hot roadmix, lubricating oil or grease or solid or liquid asphaltum;
(iv)  explosives or corrosive liquids, or
(b) is transporting empty tanks if those tanks
(i)  had contained gasoline, distillate or kerosene, and
(ii)  have not been thoroughly cleaned with steam or filled with water.
(2)  A person must not operate a contaminated vehicle on or within any of the Agassiz-Rosedale Bridge, the William R. Bennett Bridge, the Nelson Bridge, the Pattullo Bridge, the First Narrows Bridge, the Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Bridge, the Oak Street Bridge, the Knight Street Bridge, the Queensborough Bridge or the Port Mann Bridge other than during the time or times specified for that operation on signs posted by the minister on the approaches to the structure.
[am. B.C. Reg. 81/2008.]

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